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 Post subject: New Star Trek series.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:55 am 
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dig it. http://cow.neondragon.net/index.php/201 ... s-in-works

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:06 am 
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And its animated, I remember that in 70's and damn there was some very good episodes, infact there was a hell of a lot of good episodes.

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
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And its animated, I remember that in 70's and damn there was some very good episodes, infact there was a hell of a lot of good episodes.


Paging Doctor Spark, we have another who thought that there was a lot of good episodes of The Animated Series. Recommend full neural cleansing!



Seriously though, I've watched TAS a few times. There's only a couple of really good episodes (The Counter-clock Incident, Yesteryear and More Tribbles, More Troubles). The rest have greatly varying quality, even in the episodes themselves...there is a reason that Roddenberry declared it non-canon ;)

As for a new animated series...it could be interesting...but it's going to have to keep up to a high standard set by Stargate Universe, Battlestar Galactica and others...otherwise it's going to flop.

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
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Dated December 2006. Sorry guys :)

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:58 pm 
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said planned release for 2014.

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
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Add me to the list of those that Like the animated series.

I went in with Low expectations, and was pleasantly surprised.

Plus I love that my 5yo daughter asks..."Daddy, can we watch Star Trek tonight? The one with the giant Spock." How freakin' cool is that!

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
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eh i am hesitant about this storyline ... i mean i know it is 150 years later, but it reminds me too much of the Star Wars legacy comic series that they have going over there are lucas arts. trying to spark the glory days of star wars when it was rebel vs empire by fast fowarding past their stupid vong war to create "hey, another generation of rebel vs empire, only with drugs" ... anyway, if this series is going to move like so many other sci-fi series have moved, into a more "dark" and "gritty" trend, one where emotion is played up and drama rather than substance of story ... i'll be very sad to say, that I shall not be amongst those star trek fans to enjoy the new series. Just like how i don't enjoy the new Stargate Universe series.

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
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eh i am hesitant about this storyline ... i mean i know it is 150 years later, but it reminds me too much of the Star Wars legacy comic series that they have going over there are lucas arts. trying to spark the glory days of star wars when it was rebel vs empire by fast fowarding past their stupid vong war to create "hey, another generation of rebel vs empire, only with drugs" ... anyway, if this series is going to move like so many other sci-fi series have moved, into a more "dark" and "gritty" trend, one where emotion is played up and drama rather than substance of story ... i'll be very sad to say, that I shall not be amongst those star trek fans to enjoy the new series. Just like how i don't enjoy the new Stargate Universe series.



this is one of my concerns as well.

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
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humm, my main issue with this is the Vulcans withdrawing from the Federation, I mean seriously? Vulcan? I think the writers watched a little too much of the episodes involving 'through the looking glass' heh

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
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I'm guessing they're trying to move the plot along to draw in more fans. The problem with the series right now is this: the current storyline is too "established" and the mythos is saturated with three different series of events, characters and so on (I'm not including the original in this, which took place earlier). New fans to the series might be a bit bogged down with not being caught up, especially considering the last series ended some time ago. A new setting gives a fresh start, and allows the writers to change up the pace of the series and draw on new ideas. And honestly, with the ratings drop of Enterprise, I can see why they were likely forced into establishing a clean slate by the network.

From a narrative point of view, it works wonderfully. A setting advancement allows big events to occur without leaving an audience wondering how many times the galaxy can be in peril through the course of a single generation. Also allows the writers to break from the limitations set by an established and narrow set of limitations on what they can do within the setting. Personally I'd like to see more advances into the Delta and Gamma quadrants, as it's likely that the Cardassian, Klingon, Federation and Romulans would likely come to an understanding after 150 years, or failing that one would likely seize dominance (bright future vs. gritty future I suppose).

The article may be dated 2006, but the last Star Trek movie drew a huge audience outside of the regular trekkie crowd, so I wouldn't be suprised to see a non-animated main series hit the tube. The movie was a success because of a bigger emphasis on action and a fast moving, large scale story arc. I would expect to see more of this trend in a new series. Hopefully without the glaring plot holes and scientific impossibilities.

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:51 pm 
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Grobbit wrote:
From a narrative point of view, it works wonderfully. A setting advancement allows big events to occur without leaving an audience wondering how many times the galaxy can be in peril through the course of a single generation. Also allows the writers to break from the limitations set by an established and narrow set of limitations on what they can do within the setting. Personally I'd like to see more advances into the Delta and Gamma quadrants, as it's likely that the Cardassian, Klingon, Federation and Romulans would likely come to an understanding after 150 years, or failing that one would likely seize dominance (bright future vs. gritty future I suppose).

The article may be dated 2006, but the last Star Trek movie drew a huge audience outside of the regular trekkie crowd, so I wouldn't be suprised to see a non-animated main series hit the tube. The movie was a success because of a bigger emphasis on action and a fast moving, large scale story arc. I would expect to see more of this trend in a new series. Hopefully without the glaring plot holes and scientific impossibilities.



First of all I would contest that from a writing stand point that the giant leap forward makes sense. If anything, it only shows that you wish to seperate yourself from the previous work ... which from a writer / directors / actors career point is both good and bad, in that is allows you to shine as yourself but also lessens the burden of being bogged down should you hate the comparisions to previous work. Which is what so often happens when they try to "reinvision" a series in order to recapture and expand their audience. Its a roll of the dice, not much more. But anyway, aside from that it also allows you to avoid insulting others who have worked in the franchise by not treading on their hard work in order to bolster yourself up, such as occured with Star Wars' novel series in the break befire the first round of authors and the second and third round, by the time the vong war was rolling around the earlier authors were ready to pull their hair out and deny all prior involvment with the series because their characters, that they labored so hard and so long upon were now being devoured in an unrealistic and overly dramatized war.

the other thing I'd like to contest is the success of the latest Star Trek movie. While I don't deny that it did very well in the box office, I, and many of my other star trek friends found it to fall very, very, very short of our standards. In fact i remember one of my friends wanted to round up a group of us to go to the theater with the intention of getting drunk while the film was on and throwing things at the screen ... but i didn't feel like getting arrested.

There is a reason why the star trek series was so successful within the trinity series, as i refer to them, that being TNG, DS9, and Voyager and the further they move from those themes, qualities and virtues, the less and less the franchise will shine. But thats just my humble opinion.

But given the choice, I would rather see a brand new series with brand new characters than a continuation of the original series characters in their new "revised" form following the parallel universe storyline. If they want to make more movies that advance those characters fine, but i'd rather not see them on TV once a week reminding me of how storyline was replaced with computer generated special effects.

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
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I agree with just about everything you've said, but I'm not so sure the guys with the money bags will :(

I saw the new Star Trek movie as a bit of a testing ground so to speak. It did very well in the box office, better than most thought it would do. Despite what would make sense for the series, they'll probably go after the dollar at the end of the day. I don't like much of what I posted, but it's how I see it turning out. As far as the last movie went, I liked it as an action movie but it had some ridiculous plot holes, Stark Trek continuity aside (they started it with time travel, so I guess they have liberty to ignore all established lore). And by this I mean I didn't like it as a Star Trek movie.

One thing that brightens my outlook is the growing popularity of TV shows with continuing storylines (24, Lost, Heroes, Prison Break, etc.). I'm hoping that this proven success will allow the writing staff to open up with a more complex arcs, which they have already jumped into the shallow end with some of the later series.

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:52 pm 
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Conman wrote:



Is this still a reality or is this just old news now?


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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
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well, seeing as we haven't heard anything else about it in nearly 4 years, I think it is pretty much dead.

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 Post subject: Re: New Star Trek series.
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Also i enjoyed the Animated series.Especially the Slavers episode.:P

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